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 Naslov: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sub 07 srp, 2012 13:11 
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Educational continuous video 1h20m Cross-country flight. Konchitka, Russia. Video with the reconstruction of the behavior of Thermocompass.




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 Naslov: Manual video
PostPostano: ned 15 srp, 2012 9:01 
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A device that helps pilots find NEW thermals up to 500 m Project free. For Paragliding
Description of the device. Manual.Examples of different modes in flight.

Manual video

Learn more and download free software here http://www.thermocompass.orgfree.com



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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sri 18 srp, 2012 22:52 
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...nekak mi se cini da je ovo precizno ko i Nebojsina trodnevna prognoza......

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 19 srp, 2012 7:18 
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Tomica Solina je napisao/la:
...nekak mi se cini da je ovo precizno ko i Nebojsina trodnevna prognoza......

Da.
U pravilu služi da kad nadješ termiku da ti ono kaže da si ju pronašao.
Mene najviše podsjeća na onu igračkicu na vrhu puhalice za balone sa kuglicom koju pokušavaš utjerati u rupicu.

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 19 srp, 2012 7:54 
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Uvijek mi je drago vidjeti nove stvari i da se netko trudi da napravi za nesto novo. Nadam se da ce i iz ovog nakon nekoliko godina izaci pristojan uredaj. No kolko sam gledao (ukratko, nisam gledao cijele videe); ovo se bazira na inputu podataka koje ucitas u njega i pogadada termiku za ona podrucja za koja ima inpute....Meni netreba govoriti di bi mogli biti stupovi oko Ravne gore ili Ivancice, jer tu ionak znam sve napamet..... A negdje dalje, kad se krene u prelet, mislim da nemoze pogotiti nista jer ni nema inpute. O ove ostale điđimiđije ionak ima uredaj s kojim letim i sad.....U biti sa sondom, ima skoro sve funkcije ko i ovaj uredaj.....

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 19 srp, 2012 8:13 
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In this video, the device does not use any prediction from maps either. Just as the variometer shows an increase in height, this device shows that close to thermals.


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 19 srp, 2012 14:50 
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In this video, the device does not use any prediction from maps either. Just as the variometer shows an increase in height, this device shows that close to thermals.

To ima i moj Leonardo PRO BT :) samo mu moram skopcat sondu. Tam se to zove "thermal snifing" :) Koristi podtake od neto varia i varia...... Tu funkciju su mu dodali jos pre 3 godine.

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 19 srp, 2012 18:30 
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http://www.digifly.com/leonardo-pro-bluetooth.htm Here is a description. What I do not see a function to search for NEW thermals.


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: pet 20 srp, 2012 7:58 
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http://www.digifly.com/leonardo-pro-bluetooth.htm Here is a description. What I do not see a function to search for NEW thermals.

Copy/paste iz manuala, str 36.;

"6.9 THERMAL SNIFFER
To utilize the thermal sniffer function, you must have an air speed probe connected. The
optional air speed probe should be plugged in to the right hand socket on the bottom of
the vario.
If this parameter (ADVANCED SETUP \ n. 8 POLA) is set to “OFF”, all display information
relating to McCready, McCready Equivalent, Thermal Sniffer is not displayed on the
instrument, creating a cleaner display for users not needing this functionality.
The thermal sniffer is an innovative function that helps you to detect a thermal early.
It alerts you with a sound and the popup message “THERMAL” when you are in a
thermal but your vario is still indicating sink because your sink rate is higher than the
speed of the rising air.
This function uses two parameters, the thermal strength and the time over which the
thermal must occur.
To set the thermal detection parameters, go to (ADVANCED SETUP \ n. 2 THEV) and
(ADVANCED SETUP \ n. 3 THET) to adjust the vertical speed (vario) and for how many
consecutive seconds this vertical speed has to be detected.
To use this function you need to set up the polar of your glider."

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: pet 20 srp, 2012 9:50 
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Ja isto volim imati "sondu",zapravo nekoliko njih mada mi ni to niš ne garantira... :-D


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: pet 20 srp, 2012 10:44 
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This effect is known for a long time. But the receiver of this technology has the sensitivity to 5 - 7 times less than the detection of microturbulence. At about the same as in electronics, signals with amplitude modulation is more difficult to detect than a signal with frequency modulation. Perhaps that is why wind measurements are not widely used. In addition, this device responds not only to thermals, and create a lot of false signals.
The simplest example. Wind from the fan, we can feel a distance of 10-15 meters on, and hear the sound of more than 50-70 meters.

Experience - did not mean to check the device works or not. We are talking about measurements of the distances for the different conditions under which the device registers effectively NEW thermals.


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: pet 20 srp, 2012 11:57 
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http://xcglobe.com/olc/index.php/catalog#si&flights&1040155&map

Neznam kad je ovo zaživjelo, k tome nema puno veze sa ovom temom, ali fakat super fora - thermal statistics!

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 18 lis, 2012 15:48 
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New update to version 2.1 Download here http://thermocompass.nethouse.me/

Do not delete the old version of the TC

Added a lot of features. The main changes made to the map display mode:

1. New: Real pos. - Present position GPS, Thermals pos. - A point on the earth's surface triggers Description http://paragliding.in.ua/index.php?topic=9867.0
2. Index maps. Can be downloaded a few sets of Maps with an index of 9 to 13.
New: With 15-18 index maps with color track of the vertical flight speed. These maps are scaled automatically, ie "Free hand" in flight.
3. Screen refresh rate.
4. Flight direction
5. Wind.
6. New: Quality. In the still air at - 0.9 - 1.7 m \ sec will be shown real quality.
7. Vertical speed.
8. Absolute horizontal velocity.
9. Height on the GPS.
10. Direction of thermocompass. Shows the direction to the center of the thermal. It is important not to be confused with the position of the center of the flow, as done in the LK!!!
11. Wind direction, the instantaneous value. Shows where the wind blows. May differ from local wind (5) due to the influence of clouds and other strong thermals.
12.New: Flight track. Color depending on the vertical velocity. The spectrum of blue colors for negative vertical speed. Range from green to red for positive vertical speed.



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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sub 03 stu, 2012 13:45 
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Software "Thermals finder" upgrade to version 2.2. The first time! Detailed description of the three modes of the device to find for NEW thermals.
A new mode VARIO, based on accelerometers, barometric sensor and GPS.

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Description http://thermocompass.nethouse.me/static ... 7eryw2.pdf
Download http://thermocompass.nethouse.me/static ... 2trnqn.rar


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: čet 08 stu, 2012 8:04 
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Thermocompass (Thermals finder) in real flight.
Pilot skeptical of the device before takeoff. 10 minutes of the flight changed his opinion. The day he flew long and above all...

http://youtu.be/_dNtc5_CNHM


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: uto 05 vel, 2013 22:39 
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Holux FunTrek 130 with installed programs Thermocompass & LK8000 for paraglider pilots
Include: standart pack Holux FunTrek 130 with AC adapter, USB cable, CD, Manual, holder.
+ micro SD card 4 GB, 10 class with programs Thermocompass & LK8000

The main distinguishing feature of the device Thermocompass from other devices that are used for paragliding, is that the device detects new thermals.
Thermals creates around the turbulent air from the friction of air flows. The diameter of the zone of turbulence is much larger than the thermals. When pilot flight crosses the turbulent region of the thermal, Thermocompass calculate the exact direction of the center of the thermals along the gradient amplitude and phase fluctuations of turbulence.
Finding effective distance depends on the strength of thermals and approximately 300 - 500 meters. When the TC detects fluctuations of turbulence of the thermal, it sounds like a variometer.

In addition, the device uses a maps indicating the locations where the thermals are born. So you can plan your flight is most likely to find thermals. These maps are calculated before the start with preFlightEditor and depending on weather conditions.
Device also has an effective thermal assistant, variometer on barometric, GPS and accelerometer sensors, and many other features.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/GPS-Holux-FunTrek-130-for-paragliding-with-Thermocompass-LK8000/170985856380?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=007&category=114271&cmd=ViewItem


Zadnja izmjena: igor_65; sri 06 vel, 2013 11:19; ukupno mijenjano 1 put/a.

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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sri 06 vel, 2013 4:49 
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I would sugest Igor that you give one device to some top pilot to test it in competitions or XC flight and that he makes recenzion. Some text how it is and is it worth.
I could try and see what it is all about. If you can convince me than I can spread good word.
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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sri 06 vel, 2013 11:16 
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Gurka <lluisgh at yahoo.es> from Andorra Yesterday in the mail to me

-Hi , Igor.

2 flights, sailing same category (sport class), almost same pilot experience. Day without flight conditions, pre-frontal, no heat, no wind and high clouds and sun in the final phase.
One pilot only with Thermocompass, the other with one vario Xc trainer.
you can compare the time in flight, not the distance only.

- Igor:
Unfortunately I do not have such statistics. I think the beginning of the season, by the summer I will be able to provide it to you.

- Gurka:
I was with the TC who flew twice to the other pilot


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: pon 25 vel, 2013 8:59 
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I would sugest Igor that you give one device to some top pilot to test it in competitions or XC flight and that he makes recenzion. Some text how it is and is it worth.

Look http://xxcb.blogspot.com/2013/02/aplicativos-para-voo-futuro-ou-presente.html


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 Naslov: Re: Cross-country flight. Thermals finder.
PostPostano: sri 20 ožu, 2013 17:46 
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New update Thermocompass software. Since version 3.0, the validation key of its IGC logs are accepting by following is a list of contests : OLC, XContest, DHV XC, xc.guiadevoo.com, xcportugal.org, GPSDump software and so on...


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